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December 22, 2009 at 5:48 pm |
Why are they testing us on insertions on our anatomy practical after specifically telling us that we were not responsible for insertions? I dont mind learning them. please just tell me that i’m suppose to. thanks.
December 22, 2009 at 7:25 pm |
While that specific question was one of the easier ones, it was completely unfair. They repeated over and over that we didn’t have to learn insertions and origins but that we might find it helpful for learning functions. To then include it on the exam was unfair.
December 22, 2009 at 8:29 am |
Is there anyway we can get the anatomy quiz back up? It would be nice to review it before tomorrow.
December 22, 2009 at 9:47 am |
Email sent, waiting for response…
December 22, 2009 at 3:30 pm |
Unfortunately, the anatomy quiz will not be put up again. The faculty made it a policy to only allow access up to midnight the day before examinations started years ago. They said, “otherwise it created way too much unnecessary stress and focus only on those questions.”
Good luck to everyone!
December 22, 2009 at 3:55 pm |
Couldn’t they at least have told us this in advance? Unnecessary stress? I think I’m unnecessarily stressed due to the fact that I was planning to take that thing at noon and then suddenly I found out it’s no longer available. What kind of reasoning is this?
December 22, 2009 at 4:50 pm |
Agreed. I’m definitely feeling more “unnecessary stress” right now since I’m never going to have a chance to look at those questions. Given how rarely we’ve been given practice questions before the exams this year due to the curriculum changes, I was looking forward to using the questions as one of my study tools, even if they weren’t at the same level of difficulty. This policy sounds fine for the future but I would hope they could make an exception here since the original email never said anything about the quiz disappearing.
December 22, 2009 at 4:45 pm |
I agree. I think I’m getting more “unnecessary stress” right now since I never had a chance to look at the questions. This policy sounds fine for the future but it would be nice if they could make an exception right now since many of us were unaware that the questions were going to be taken down.
December 22, 2009 at 8:21 pm |
I’m not sure why, but I was still able to access the quiz this afternoon so you may want to double check to see if yours works. I had started the quiz the other day but never finished it, I don’t know if that has something to do with it, as opposed to if you hadn’t started it before it was closed.
December 22, 2009 at 9:20 pm |
nope, doesn’t work, thanks though.
December 22, 2009 at 10:31 pm |
Looks like it can be viewed again if you start if before the date is up. fyi I’m not saying we shouldn’t have been explicitly warned because that certainly would have been best, but there are dates next to the quiz indicating it would only be available until 12/21/09. Detail-oriented folks like myself are the only ones to spot these sorts of things so I agree with above posters, just pointing it out in case we must rely on that version of notice again in the future.
December 20, 2009 at 11:28 pm |
Does anyone know how to find working micros? None of the radiology powerpoints are working for me (i have a mac)…am I just not finding her most recent posts? If anyone could help I’d really appreciate it (because if our test was finding the resources we are supposed to be using…I’d apparently fail).
December 20, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
Despite bumps along the way, I still think the idea of an integrated curriculum makes a lot more sense than breaking everything up into separate classes. Studying structure, function, development, etc. of a given system together seems like it’s the best way of keeping perspective on the big picture. Obviously, this is the first time around and the faculty aren’t sure how to coordinate everything yet…but I don’t think that warrants this type of uproar, as if they are just trying to be mean. I don’t know about all of your experiences, but instructors here put way more time and concern into telling us exactly what we have to know for exams than I ever got as an undergraduate – so I don’t think they are being unreasonable in not completely spoon feeding us.
Also, everyone should remember that we have pass/fail grading so that you do NOT have to constantly freak out about hitting some magical score on a test – we are all learning this stuff to be effective physicians and not to get an A on exams. If anyone is legitimately “miserable” right now, I think you should take a step back and realize that you’re probably focusing more on getting 100% than on becoming passionate about topics that will be an integral part of your life from this point forward. Learning this stuff should be more exciting than stressful! For those who are currently miserable and stressed with a life of nothing but 24/7 studying, it is likely that you already know enough to hit 90% on the exam and should be spending the next two days building snowmen to relax.
December 20, 2009 at 5:31 pm |
4 of us, post a trip to central park to play to play in the snow, whole-heartedly agree : )
December 20, 2009 at 7:01 pm |
Devil’s advocate: That’s fine, but what about those of us who feel terrible and are still only worried about hitting the passing mark? It’s still a huge amount of material to learn 70% of. Just saying…
December 20, 2009 at 9:13 pm |
yea, maybe it’s not stressful for the people doing 2 std devs above the mean, but a lot of people (myself definitely included) worry about hitting that 70.
December 20, 2009 at 1:08 pm |
Will we have to identify parts of bones on the models as part of the anatomy practical or just whatever you can see in the body in relation to muscles?
December 20, 2009 at 4:44 pm |
I believe we are responsible for the osteology as well, so the skeletons may be tagged.
December 20, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
I believe there will be 2 skeletal stations at the practical, so I would know osteology as well
December 20, 2009 at 2:43 am |
To be honest, I’m a little frustrated right now by a ton of stuff, which I think is a result of trying to do this integrated BS without being very organized. To echo below on the radiology – WTF. Some of the practice quiz questions and LAMS questions were much harder than I was expecting, and I’d have to spend a disproportionate amount of time looking at images to memorize which marginally different patches of grey are which teres muscles, etc. Hounsfeld units? seriously?
Also, I think alot of people Ive talked to, myself included, were freaked by the level of dificulty on this anatomy quiz thing. It was much harder than I expected. Not cool to find out the level of detail we’re actually responsible for is much more than we thought two days before the test. Also, who designed that piece of software? That was terrible to take and go over. Maybe I want to see the answers to the myriad of questions I guessed on? Come on.
December 20, 2009 at 11:44 am |
I AGREE WITH ALL ABOVE! Course Liaisons: is there any way we can give feedback to the administration that their new curriculum is not working? its not fair for us to have an exam on upper and lower limb while 2nd years last year had it only on upper limb and then lower limb. This is the first anatomy exam and I think to overwhelm us with material is not fair or helpful. I agree that the radiology component is the absolute worst WORST part of it all because its the most disorganized. In addition, while histo being cumulative isnt even that bad, of all things to make cumulative…really…histo? how will I ever use that as a physician? I feel like their ‘new’ aka terrible curriculum is making school so much more stressful and terrible for students. I really feel like there is no need for it to be THIS miserable. I just don’t think they realize how bad and impossible they’ve made it at this point.
December 20, 2009 at 1:44 pm |
I’d like to echo all the points of the above two posts, except I think histo being cumulative is absurd. All that studying and only 65% of the material??
December 20, 2009 at 4:49 pm |
You will have an opportunity to evaluate FM2 in January (in an evaluation similar to the one we were sent for FM1). If you still feel like there’s more you’d like to convey to the faculty, send me or one of the other course liaisons (Alex or Said) an email. Our next course liaison meeting will be in January, so we can relay any other info then.
December 19, 2009 at 10:59 pm |
Hey Course Liasons,
I don’t know if there is any way to fix this before the exam, but the physio quizzes do not really have explanations to the answers that you get wrong. While I am extremely grateful to have bountiful resources to test my physiology acuity, it would be a lot more helpful if explanations were available. So, if Dr. Walton can’t put together some explanations for these quizzes, can you guys mention this to her at the next meeting and convince her to put up more complete answers?
Thanks!
December 19, 2009 at 6:26 pm |
Will a video of yesterday’s clinical anatomy lecture be going up or is it just the audio?
December 19, 2009 at 7:40 pm |
I think he did not have a PowerPoint, but rather slides like the ones used for testing histology. A video is likely not available.
December 19, 2009 at 8:10 pm |
ok thanks
December 19, 2009 at 3:28 pm |
I am guessing that the anatomy lab will be inaccessible at some points while the faculty are setting up the practice practical, and then again while they are setting up the actual practical. If this is the case, would they be able to let us know when these times are so we can schedule our studying in the lab around it?
December 19, 2009 at 10:34 am |
I got mel’s email but i’m still confused about what is going to be on the written test. is both anatomy and radiology going to be on the written test as well? if so, what types of questions are they going to be asking? is there any way to find this out?
December 19, 2009 at 11:36 am |
I am also confused about this. Will we have histo and radio written questions in addition to the embryology, physiology and anatomy written questions. Or will wwe be finished with histo and radio as soon as the practical is finished?
December 19, 2009 at 3:15 pm |
From what I understand, there will be a few radiology questions (like 2-3 of them) on the test. There were also 2 histo lectures, so like always, I’m assuming that there will be 4 questions or so from each of those lectures. The way I look at it, each lecture will get ~4 questions on the test, no matter what the subject. Anatomy will probably be clinically based questions (esp because in the practical we just have to be able to identify them). Just my opinion, but this is how I understand it after talking to the professors
December 18, 2009 at 9:45 pm |
Anyone else having trouble opening the lower extremity LAMS?
December 18, 2009 at 11:51 pm |
Actually it worked fine for me earlier (Dell, in case that matters?). It’s a PowerPoint this time.
December 19, 2009 at 3:14 am |
There is another one posted that is non-powerpoint based that we have to do, too
December 19, 2009 at 11:21 am |
Interesting, when I go to the LAM it now tells me I have completed it based on what I did yesterday. I don’t see anything else to do for the lower extremity. Is this something that opens when you just open the lower extremity link under LAMs? Also, there’s a warning on ALEX that the LAMs aren’t working, to address your question.
December 19, 2009 at 3:16 pm |
It looks like just by downloading the ppt from the LAMS module itself and taking the quiz right after it, it will count you as having completed the module.
December 18, 2009 at 5:22 pm |
I’m confused about what material we are being tested on each day. Is Tuesday the anatomy practical and an anatomy only written exam? And Wednesday the physiology and histology written exam and histology and radiology slide exam? So what part are the radiology written questions on?
Some information about how the anatomy practical is going to work would also be helpful since we obviously can’t all be in the lab at once.
December 18, 2009 at 5:59 pm |
We’re working on getting a clearer picture of both the content of the exams and the logistics of how the practical will be run. Keep a eye out for an email from us hopefully before the end of the weekend.
December 19, 2009 at 7:23 am |
why do we also need to be tested on old histo stuff? as if all the new stuff we need to study isnt enough already? i really dont understand why I should be able to identify a lymph node right now when we’re in the midst of a neuromuscular module.
December 18, 2009 at 3:45 pm |
So we’re not doing review sessions now before the test to give us some idea what we need to know? Wow: no guidance, a ton of new material, well done NYU, really worth the 41K a year.
December 19, 2009 at 11:38 am |
I kind of feel the same. WE’ve never had an anatomy practical exam before and all the information I’ve heard about it has been rumors people have heard. Are we asked innervations and blood supply on the practical as well? How exactly does it all work? I know we’re having a practice practical on MOnday, but a practice less than 24 hours before the real thing makes me more, not less stressed.
December 19, 2009 at 12:42 pm |
In general, I agree too, but you can get an idea of the types of questions by looking at the practice currently in the central room and G08. It is pretty much, “What is this muscle? What is this nerve? What muscle does it innervate? What muscles are directly above and below it?”
December 18, 2009 at 12:16 am |
I just got Dr. Ort’s email about the sample questions on PA bodies. I don’t really understand why the answers are not given. Isn’t the whole point to test ourselves? Sometimes I just don’t understand the faculty’s reasoning…
December 18, 2009 at 11:04 am |
Just a guess, but they are probably trying to use it as a learning tool. By not giving you the answers right away, it forces you to think through the problems like it was an actual test. And, if you don’t know one, instead of just looking at the answer, it makes you look it up, so you probably won’t forget it in the future. I’m sure if after taking it you ask her (or one of the other faculty) for the answers, they will be glad to go over them for you. This just prevents people from coming in and rote memorizing the structures.
December 18, 2009 at 5:22 pm |
? it’s anatomy. it’s all rote memorization.
December 18, 2009 at 5:54 pm |
I’ve emailed Dr. Ort to see if the answers to the practice models can be posted at some point before the practice practical on Monday. I will let everyone know if and when that happens.
In the meantime, discuss with classmates and/or with an instructor.
December 17, 2009 at 5:06 pm |
For those of you that would appreciate working links to images in the online lab manual on ALEX, ALEX support is working on it. Hopefully they’ll be working soon. I’ll let you know when I get more information.
December 17, 2009 at 3:27 pm |
I am extremely confused about what information and material that we are responsible for on both the slide practical and the lecture. on some of the ‘normal’ ppts that were posted for our first radiology case study, they are asking us to ID things that we were never asked to know for for anatomy (i.e they are not on our anatomy sheet of stuctures to know). would it be possible to get a list of structures we should be able to Id and on what type of image we should be able to ID them? would it be possible to get more examples to practice IDing things on the various radiological images? I feel like we havnt been prepared for this at all and i dont undersatnd how/what we are going to be tested on. is it possible to get more information and more practice?
December 17, 2009 at 5:10 pm |
radiology is very unorganized. i also feel completely unprepared for this.
December 17, 2009 at 7:39 pm |
It also doesn’t help that she keeps emailing confusing and conflicting things.
December 17, 2009 at 8:08 pm |
She says to “relax” but then throws out there that she can point to a random muscle on a CT or MRI and ask us to identify it. I have a lot in my brain already, that I really don’t have time to memorize structures like I were a radiology resident. Is there any way to get definitive clarification for what depth of knowledge I will need to have? I also find it very unprofessional to post something that is required for me to do to pass the module 3 days before the test. It would have been nice to have it before the lecture today so I would have had some idea of what was actually going on. I, too, find it very unorganized, and that is unsettling.
December 18, 2009 at 1:12 am |
I just started on the LAMS and I find the level of detail we have to know absurd. Who cares how many Hounsfield units a certain thing is: we’re not radiologists. This course should be geared to inform and test us on the general useful clinical aspects of radiology, not minute details that most of us will never in our lives use again. We’ll likely look at X-rays, but how many of us will deal with Hounsfield units, as an example.
December 18, 2009 at 1:15 am |
I sent Dr. Shiau an email asking her to clarify what we are responsible for on this exam so we can organize/maximize our studying. Either she or I will send an email out with more information soon. Good luck studying! Less than a week to go!
December 18, 2009 at 6:37 pm |
It would also help if the radiology dept worked together with the anatomy dept in their modules. They have blood supplies and innervations listed differently from anatomy which makes this all even more confusing.
December 16, 2009 at 7:08 pm |
Can we get access to the anatomy room models? They are locked up…
December 17, 2009 at 12:03 pm |
I’m on it – I’ll let you know when I have some information for you.
December 16, 2009 at 6:01 pm |
Is LAMS 3 every going to go up? It would be nice to do it before the radiology conference (which happens to be tomorrow) so I can know what’s going on. Also, since they are all due on the day of the test, it would be nice to get them out of the way now. Just asking…
December 16, 2009 at 8:00 pm |
Agreed. Just emailed Dr. Shiau – I’ll post when I hear something back.
December 16, 2009 at 8:04 pm |
The LAM should be posted tomorrow, I’ve been told.
December 16, 2009 at 9:07 pm |
Does anybody know if there’s anything we should be studying for radiology tomorrow?
December 17, 2009 at 5:04 pm |
There was just a flurry of messages posted, but here’s the long and the short of it: LAMS 3 will be up by tomorrow.
December 15, 2009 at 7:48 pm |
Where are those tagged (for practice) cadavers we were promised? I think we need those now so that we can study on a real cadaver and not hope that we are looking at the muscle / artery / nerve we think we’re looking at.
December 16, 2009 at 2:10 am |
We’ve emailed Dr. Ort to remind her, and will let you know as soon as she replies.
December 16, 2009 at 11:38 am |
“The bodies we need to use for the tagged questions we promised are also used by our PA students whose final is on Thursday evening. They are studying on them through Wednesday. So we will have tagged bodies for you by Friday am.”
December 15, 2009 at 6:38 pm |
do we have any idea what the written exam is going to be like yet?
December 16, 2009 at 2:10 am |
I’ve emailed Dr. Ort and will let you know as soon as she replies.
December 16, 2009 at 11:39 am |
It will be mostly multiple choice questions (about 60 – 70) and possibly two short answer (as in writing down a short answer). The slide practical will have about 20 histo slides and 10-15 radiology images. The practical in the anatomy lab will have 33 questions.
December 15, 2009 at 9:29 am |
A few issues to ask the course liaisons:
(1) there are several bodies in our anatomy lab (including my table’s) that have extreme problems with mold and fungus. Is there anything that can be done about this? it is extremely difficult to work with. the instructors in the lab don’t seem to mind but it makes spending time there quite difficult for my lab members and I.
(2) is it possible to have our anatomy lectures in schwartz F? I know they have been trying to change our room around and have had little success. Is schwartz F at all a possibility? This way, Boggart can use a microphone (which i think would help a lot), the lectures could be videotaped (or not), and there is enough space for all students.
December 16, 2009 at 2:16 am |
Have you tried to bring it up to a faculty member during lab? I’ve emailed Dr. Ort about the mold issue and will let you know tomorrow, when she replies.
Regarding the move to Schwartz F, we already suggested it to faculty members, but they all agreed that the room was unnecessarily big. As of now are they are trying to be accommodating, so lets see what happens. If the room continues to be an issue, we can try again. After all, Schwartz F is our lecture hall.
December 16, 2009 at 11:40 am |
Dr. Ort will alert George and Jerzy about this, but she does not know which bodies specifically. Please point them out to G and J.
December 14, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
Anyone know what the muscle lab prep is?
December 14, 2009 at 6:48 pm |
I know this may be asking a lot, but can we get other people besides Bogart to give more of the anatomy lectures like today. Mel’s lecture today was SO much better. What I liked about the lecture today was that Mel didn’t rely totally on the ppt. I think anatomy is something that cannot be taught very well using only powerpoint (I’m not saying he shouldn’t use ppt at all). Mel also emphasized certain points, which helps me figure out how to prioritize my material. Bogart kind of drones on talking at his powerpoint slides, which is very conducive to daydreaming.
December 16, 2009 at 2:23 am |
Given that he is the course director and has been teaching it for years, this as an unlikely option. What would you say, “Dr. Bogart, can you please not teach?”. Many students enjoyed Mel’s lecture, just like some enjoy Dr. Bogart’s. I think it’s one of those “matter of preference” things that has no realistic agreed-upon solution.
December 14, 2009 at 9:24 am |
I can’t open anterior thigh prosection video. It asks me to sign up for something and even after that, nothing comes up.
December 14, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
Other students had this same problem as well (including myself). I emailed Dr. Frenkel asking her to see if she can fix the problem. Stay tuned
December 14, 2009 at 4:35 pm |
Here is how to get to it:
Go to the resources folder
Click the “For all weeks” folder
Click the “FM2 Anatomy courseware” folder
Then select upper limb
You will be taken to a table that has links to everything – the lab manual, the prosections, and the radiology. There is a similar table for lower limb as well. It’s almost easier to use this set up than have to go through the other folders
December 14, 2009 at 10:50 pm |
Dr. Frenkel said that she cannot fix the video link, but that ALEX support can. She asked that everyone having this problem email ALEX help at: alex.support@med.nyu.edu. If the ALEX folks are aware that there is a problem (and that the problem is widespread), they’ll hopefully fix it promptly.
December 15, 2009 at 1:08 am |
It seems like the only problem is that the link is wrong. If you follow the instructions that the other person posted you can get to the video just fine. It’s under lower limb and you click on the picture and the video opens up just like all the other ones.
December 15, 2009 at 8:28 am |
This is true – but for any future issues, I just wanted to let everyone know that you can email ALEX support as well. But thanks to whoever put up the instructions to get to the video.
December 12, 2009 at 1:49 pm |
Could we get a list of the cases we’re supposed to do for physio?
December 13, 2009 at 12:09 am |
If you mean the Carroll book, they’re listed at the end of short notes for each lecture in the FM2 coursebook (given out at the end of the last FM1 exam). So far I think it’s just cases 2-5. If this isn’t what you mean, at least I tried to help…
December 11, 2009 at 7:38 pm |
The muscle tissue slides that are now online don’t seem to have all the notes at the bottom of the slides that the previous version did. Could we maybe get the one with notes put back up?
December 14, 2009 at 4:12 pm |
Just sent an email to Dr. Smith about this – I’ll let you know when we hear anything back.
December 16, 2009 at 8:03 pm |
Dr. Smith replied to my email and said that he didn’t think it would be necessary to post the other slide presentation. He felt that the notes in the course manual and his lecture would be sufficient to prepare for the exam. In short, he will not be posting the slides.
December 8, 2009 at 9:59 pm |
I tried to open the radiology case study normal ppts and my computer says that macros will not work with Mac Office 2008, and so all the little white boxes don’t do anything when I click on them. Anyone else have trouble with this or know a way to make it work?
December 10, 2009 at 8:53 pm |
yeah mine won’t work either…which is really annoying. I strongly feel that the professors should ensure what they up works before they put it up and leave it up. How am I supposed to prepare for a case study when I can’t use the material. This is dumb.
December 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm |
We know there is a problem with the macros – Dr. Shiau knows as well and said in her email that she will re-issue the powerpoints with the answers provided. While this doesn’t help for the case study tomorrow, it will help for the exam.
December 8, 2009 at 5:07 pm |
I feel like we’re not getting enough face time with instructors during anatomy lab. It always seems like an instructor is with another group, and spending a lot of time with that group, and it would of course be rude and wrong to try and pull him away from the group mid-converstation. For those of us who don’t want to be perpetually looking over our shoulders to see if an instructor happens to be free and hasn’t been snatched up by another group yet, it is tough to get their attention in a way that doesn’t cut into another group’s time. Is there any way they could systematically rotate to assure that each group gets at least one conversation with an instructor?
December 8, 2009 at 10:06 pm |
seconded
December 11, 2009 at 8:48 am |
Our group has had success just approaching an instructor at another table and asking that person to come to table ‘X’ or ‘Y’ after they’re finished with their present group. The instructors have been pretty good about addressing these requests in order (not getting pulled to a different group along the way) and I don’t think that kind of interruption is unreasonable because the first table is able to finish their conversation and address all of their questions before the instructor leaves. While we’re waiting, we just move on to something else.
December 14, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
Thank you for your feedback everyone, and yes you have the right idea to proactively (but politely) seek out an instructor. It is ultimately the student’s responsibility to queue their table up with an instructor if they require guidance or have questions about the dissection.
Nevertheless, I have brought this issue to the attention of the Course Directors and have made reasonable suggestions of how to fix the problem. Please feel free to email me directly (mlg405@nyumc.org) if this continues to be a problem for your table, or if you have any other suggestions regarding this issue.
December 8, 2009 at 4:34 pm |
Not exactly related to FM2, but shouldn’t there be more electrical outlets / power strips in the library quiet room? There are actually quite a few desks at which to sit, but because only 1/3 of them have adequate power availability, everyone wants to sit in that 1/3, and the other 2/3 are unused and kind of unusable unless you want your battery to run out.
December 8, 2009 at 5:35 pm |
Good idea! Students council actually has a committee which works with the library, so I relayed the comment to the committee. They usually have a good response time, but if it’s taking a while feel free to nag student council/Ilina/ me. Cheers
December 6, 2009 at 4:45 am |
I know this is not related to FM2, but i don’t know who else to complain to. who/what controls the thermostat in rubin? why on earth would you blast the heat when it is 50 degrees outside and then refuse to heat the building when it is 30 degrees outside? is it really that difficult?
December 6, 2009 at 8:27 am |
I don’t know if you’ve tried this, but the Temperature complaint phone number in the chart may be a place to start.
December 6, 2009 at 8:27 am |
http://redaf.med.nyu.edu/facilities-operations-and-maintenance/report-a-concern
Here’s the webiste.
December 7, 2009 at 6:16 pm |
the building is like from the 1600s. the native americans first lived here before the european explorers. the fact that we even have heat to begin with is a miracle.
December 5, 2009 at 7:11 pm |
Could someone clarify the FM2 final exam format posted on ALEX?
December 7, 2009 at 7:16 pm |
The faculty has not discussed the exam as of 12/7/09. An email will be sent out as soon as decisions are made regarding format, location, etc.
December 5, 2009 at 1:48 pm |
I remembered Mel and Vicky saying that we should turn our lab coat into the linen closet every week to get a new one and have the other one cleaned. But when I went to the linen closet on Friday they said there weren’t any additional lab coats and if I turned mine in I couldn’t get it back until Wednesday. So I guess the lab coats just stay dirty until the end of FM2?
December 5, 2009 at 2:02 am |
It would be great if Dr. Shiau’s slides from today’s introductory radiology lecture could be posted.
December 5, 2009 at 4:04 am |
She said they weren’t going to be posted because she didn’t feel that we had the need to take notes. If you want to review something, I guess you could watch it on iTunes and take screen shots. It makes sense to have them posted so we can look over them, but her reasoning is also logical.
December 5, 2009 at 4:05 am |
I’m sure, though, that she will post them if asked. There is lots of good information in there
December 5, 2009 at 5:38 pm |
Does this mean a course liaison will ask her? There were items about the course towards the beginning that would be useful to have as well as the CT vs. MRI stuff. I’m actually not a fan of rewatching lectures so this would be a first if I have to due to a lack of ppt availability.
December 5, 2009 at 8:18 pm |
I’ll send an email to Dr. Shiau and ask her to post her slides. I’ll let you know when they’re up.
December 8, 2009 at 8:31 am |
Slides from Dr. Shiau’s lecture are now posted on Alex -
December 8, 2009 at 5:19 pm |
Thank you!
December 3, 2009 at 6:44 pm |
Would it be possible to switch around the schedules for 12/18 (Friday) and the practical practice on 12/21 (Monday)?
I ask this because I know if I see the practice practical on Monday, I will shit myself because I probably won’t have studied the right things to the right depth, and would feel much better shitting myself on Friday (with 4 days to clean up and prepare properly) than Monday night before the actual practical. Thanks!
December 4, 2009 at 12:39 am |
This sounds like a great idea. We will bring this up to the faculty on Monday and let you know in the subsequent email that will go out to the class. If there are no logistical reasons behind the scheduling, I don’t see why the shift would not be possible. I anticipate a reason for not wanting to switch it to Friday to be the actual preparation of the practical by the faculty (thus the weekend).
We will keep you updated.
December 3, 2009 at 2:59 pm |
So far as Anatomy goes, we will try to figure out the answers to some of your questions before the weekend. The course liaisons will send an email out to the class once we have some more information about exams, level of detail we’re expected to know, etc.
December 3, 2009 at 12:39 pm |
I hear Dr Walton gave a brief 15min talk about the new module, the books, and what is expected of us. I thought that it would have been recorded and placed on iTunesU with the first lecture, but it was not. Is there any way to get that talk posted (or at least the PowerPoints)? It would really help those of us who didn’t attend the lecture understand what is going on.
December 3, 2009 at 6:45 pm |
We have emailed Dr. Walton to ask if she can post her powerpoint presentation from Tuesday. Stay tuned . . .
December 3, 2009 at 6:51 pm |
Thanks!
December 3, 2009 at 9:21 pm |
Dr. Walton posted her slides in the Week 1, Lecture 3: Excitable Membranes folder. Enjoy!
December 5, 2009 at 4:14 am |
Thanks for getting this taken care of so quickly
December 3, 2009 at 8:06 am |
are the exams still going to be multiple choice? plus, it feels that the bogart anatomy/embryo book has a lot less detail then whats covered in class, so how much do we really need to know?
December 5, 2009 at 8:19 pm |
We’ll send an email out on Monday with more details, but for now the professors are not exactly sure how anatomy will be tested. Embryo will be multiple choice, and part of anatomy will obviously be identifications in the practical. When we have more information, we’ll let you know.
December 2, 2009 at 10:55 pm |
I don’t understand this line in Dr. Ort’s email: “You need to come into the lab at least twice a week outside of lab time.” Through speaking with 2nd-years, I gathered that labs used to be 4.5 hours and are now 3 hours. So what’s the point of cutting down on lab time if we’re still expected to come in, and that without the supervision of the professors? At least when the labs were 4.5 hours, the professors would be there to confirm the structures found. Why should we have to go in twice a week extra without having that resource available? I feel like it’s just going to lead to a lot of inefficient, wasted time.
December 3, 2009 at 4:29 am |
also the last paragraph is wack. nobody (fine, maybe that one kid) would complain if there was no way to fail, but if you’re calling a 70 a pass and 10-20% will be things we believed we didn’t need to know… you get the point.
December 3, 2009 at 3:37 pm |
Agreed, it’s better to have questions answered by a professor in lab instead of bumbling around with an atlas for hours.
December 2, 2009 at 3:46 pm |
A decision? Just ask him to speak up
December 3, 2009 at 12:57 am |
Go for it and ask, I am sure he will be receptive.
November 30, 2009 at 11:59 pm |
Is it possible to have lab lectures in Shwartz F rather than in Coles 109? Sometimes it’s rather difficult to catch what Dr. Bogart was saying today without the microphone.
December 1, 2009 at 1:21 am |
I agree. If it isn’t possible to move the lectures, can we get him a microphone or ask him nicely to face the class instead of the board when lecturing?
December 1, 2009 at 1:23 pm |
We will bring this issue up at the next course director meeting (next Monday) and let you know if a decision was made.